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Cho – back in Edinburgh after 10 years away
Friday, August 19 2011
EiF speaks to
one of the biggest names in Edinburgh this year, Margaret Cho, about
working with Bill Hicks, getting cute with Daniel Kitson and how she'd
like to marry a gay couple while she's at the Fringe ...
People like Margaret Cho are a treat to interview – witty, unpredictable,
never far from a decent anecdote. She "gives good quote" as
we say in the trade.
The most unexpected thing Cho said – and LiF's research drones
have been flogged for not knowing this in advance – is that she
is qualified to marry people. This led to the extraordinary offer by
Cho to marry any gay couples while in Edinburgh. It's not a gay-exclusive
offer because she is heterophobic, but because gay rights have long
been a cause she has supported. It's her drum.
"It's true," says Cho, "I'm an ordained minister, I have
some government credentials so I can perform a gay wedding, and have
done so. So if there are any gay couples in Edinburgh who want me to
marry them, I'm so all over that – I'd love it to happen.
"It's important for me to talk about gay rights. It's really been
an issue in the US at a social and pop cultural level. There was this
thing recently where [30 Rock star] Tracey Morgan, who's a famous comedian
over here, he made some comments in his show about how if his son was
gay, he would stab him to death. This caused outrage in the gay community,
and I was hurt by it. I'm a friend of his, so it hurt.
"It's a weird thing. I understand that as a comic you have the
ability to say anything and you can say inappropriate things but unfortunately
the only thing I can never condone is violence against gays. It goes
to the heart of what I am. I've experienced so many episodes of homophobic
violence in my life and it was such an alarming experience.
"But things are starting to happen, they've legalised gay marriage
in New York, and that's a very, very big deal, politically."
This gives you an idea of what Cho's comedy is like – strong-willed
but not ranty, socio-political in subject, and from the point of view
of one of life's outsiders. Cho had a bohemian upbringing in San Francisco
to Korean parents, has battled addiction to drink and drugs and has
suffered abuse for her sexuality (she is bisexual). The 42-year-old
is now in a "very conventional and conservative" marriage
to artist Al Ridenour.
Talking of strong-willed, political and outsider comedians, it's hard
to speak about Cho without mentioning Bill Hicks. She talks about Hicks
a lot and he appears to have been responsible for a kind of awakening
in her, as they worked together early in her career. She describes herself
as a "raunchy, Bill Hicks kind of comic". Now, any old whippersnapper
who says something vaguely counter-cultural could compare themselves
to Hicks, but Cho more right than most to do so. Their share a sense
of iconoclasm, challenging the status quo and standing up for what they
believe in – all that stuff that sounds cheesy written down but
will never be unimportant. The Bill Hicks fan mafia will never accept
anyone else, and appear to think that stand-up comedy died with him,
but nonetheless Hicks fans should give Cho a shot.
Cho says: "Bill's reach in comedy is immense. There's a whole generation
of comics who are deeply influenced by his work and who he was as a
person. He was a very generous, loving, beautiful, kind man as well
as an amazing comic. Those of us lucky enough to know him can't help
but be influenced by his generosity. I'm a disciple, definitely.
"I worked with him a lot when I was very, very young and watching
him help me establish my comedy. I always love how his comedy was raw,
very political, emotional and at the same time sophisticated –
and it still has so much power."
Edinburgh has missed out on a big chunk of Cho's career. When she was
here last, it was 2001 and things were just taking off thanks to her
breakthrough second show Notorious C.H.O. Since then, that show has
been released as a film, she has founded her own clothing line, hosted
the True Colours Tour (for the Human Rights Campaign), and she's had
two further comedy shows.
And for her return to the Fringe she is taking another new direction
– musical comedy. Her 2011 show, Cho Dependent, has plenty of
the stuff, and follows her album of the same name, released in 2010
with the help of unit-shifters Grant Lee Phillips, Fiona Apple and Andrew
Bird. She says: "My favourite style is musical comedy that is not
necessarily about comedy. I consider some of Dylan's finest work to
be comic, and I consider Morrissey to be a great comedian; the music
is so beautiful you don't notice it straight away. That's what I'm aspiring
to do."
Cho seems unfazed by the prospect of coming to the Edinburgh bootcamp
for the first time in 10 years and not being as well-known as she is
in the US. She points out that it's an occupational hazard: stand-ups
are accustomed to having to win over each audience individually, always
starting again, with fame only buying you about 30 seconds of grace
before you have to start proving yourself.
Oddly enough her two abiding
memories from 2001 have little to do with comedy. Firstly, the food,
obviously: she was able to eat vegan doner kebabs, which she's not been
able to find anywhere else in the world since. Secondly, some sweet
little interactions with Daniel Kitson. "I used to leave things
on stage for him," she says, "he performed at the same place
as me, Pleasance Over the Road, and I would come down before he came
on and leave him little gifts for him to find. I'd leave Mars bars and
Aero bars, things like that. He would leave me notes in return saying
thank you which was very kind."
So Cho's 2011 Fringe has a lot to live up to outside the hurl burly
of doing shows. Now if only she can find a gay couple to marry, it might
just make it another memorable one …
If you would like Margaret
Cho to marry you during this year's Fringe, then email Edinburgh is
Funny at paul@londonisfunny.com and your message will be passed on.
Seriously.
Tasty leftovers
• Cho will be writing a song with Aussie comedy-musical trio Axis
of Awesome during the festival, and she also hopes to d o the same with
Amanda Palmer
• Of British comedy, she is a bug fan of the horror/comedy cross-over
such as League of Gentlemen, Psychoville and Garth Marenghi's Dark Place.
Also French and Saunders.
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