An interview with Margaret Cho about her ‘Assassin’ tour
BY GREGG SHAPIRO
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Armed with a microphone and her razor-sharp wit, Margaret Cho is slaying
audiences across the country on her “Assassin” tour. Her
set includes bits about being in London, British news stories, the Spice
Girls, and football icon David Beckham and his former-Spice Girl wife,
Victoria. In her inimitable style she also covers diverse topics such
as sex with handicapped people, the red and blue states, un-Christian
Christian conservatives, former New Jersey governor McGreevey, the “second”
death of Ronald Reagan, the Jeff Stryker action figure, Arnold Schwarzenegger,
the FCC, Howard Stern, the pope and Björk.
As is to be expected, the increasingly political and politically active
Cho includes material revolving around George W. Bush and, of course,
gay men.
Gay & Lesbian Times: In the lobby of the Chicago Theater,
after your show on March 11, I overheard someone say that they didn’t
think it was possible, but your facial expressions have gotten funnier
and even more expressive, including your impressions of ex-Governor
McGreevy’s wife’s “fag hag look on her face”
and your impression of Björk. How do you develop that aspect of
your comedy?
Margaret Cho: I think it’s possibly a mental thing. I don’t
really look at myself when I’m doing it. I’m not really
sure what I’m doing, actually. I’m just kind of focusing
on what it looks like to me visually in my head and I go from there.
I don’t really pay that much attention to developing things –
it just happens, I suppose.
GLT: You have also added a new accent to your repertoire when
you were imitating the British newscasters. Do you have a favorite accent?
MC: I don’t look at them as accents. I look at them as aspects
of myself, and certainly memory and things that I liked about people
and the way that they spoke.
GLT: The Spice Girls jokes were especially funny. Have you heard
the Emma Bunton CD? She sounds like the Spice Girl that got away.
MC: Yeah, I actually love it! I love Emma. I think she’s great
[laughs]. I love them all. And Geri [Halliwell] has a new single out,
but I don’t know if it got released here. It’s really great.
GLT: You also spoke about un-Christian Christians, which got
a rousing response from the audience in Chicago. Does that get the same
reaction in other parts of the country?
MC: Oh, yes. People are very upset about these kinds of attitudes that
pretend to be Christian and pretend to be speaking for God, when really
they are so incredibly not God-like at all. They are so biased and bigoted
and prejudiced and grotesque and couldn’t be less like what Jesus
taught. It’s infuriating to me that they call themselves Christian,
because they are not.
GLT: Do you think there is any way to get through to those people,
perhaps through humor?
MC: I think so. I think there is a way to possibly show people’s
incredible hypocrisy by using humor. It disarms people and makes them
feel not so angry and readily able to listen to you. At least some people
sometimes.
GLT: One of the things that your audiences take with them, in
addition to your advice about fucking ugly people, is a catch-phrase.
From the “ass-master” to “is he the gay?” through
“My name’s Gwen.” With the “Assassin”
tour you have now given them the many meanings of “girl”
in the gay lexicon. How does it feel when you are out somewhere and
you hear fans doing your routines?
MC: I guess I don’t hear it much or I’m not aware of it.
I don’t have a sense of whether people are doing my thing or just
kind of catching on to the same idea. I hope that people get something
from what I do, but I don’t count on it or think about it like
that.
GLT: The “Assassin” tour has two main themes: Bush
and gay rights. Could you have imagined when you first started doing
comedy during the more liberal Clinton-era that things would have taken
a turn such as this?
MC: No, it’s disturbing. It’s really kind of a terrible
era in terms of progressive politics and human rights and equality.
It’s grievous having to live in this time, but we can look to
make the most of it by trying to find hope, which for me is always finding
humor in situations.
GLT: The political situation in the country is getting weirder,
as you pointed out, between the governorship of “Conan”
and Reagan being sainted. The other day Condoleeza Rice declared that
she had no plans to run for president. What if she had declared her
candidacy?
MC: I still think that she will. That’s a scary thought because
[people] will be elated about having the first woman president and the
first black woman president, but in fact she’s neither of those
things [laughs] in terms of her politics. She is not feminist –
she is for herself, but not necessarily for anyone else. She is a woman
of color, but she’s not political in any way that I would recognize
a woman of color being. She’s kind of a shill, a robot for the
Bush administration. A wolf in black woman’s clothing. You want
to say, “Oh, this would be great.” But really it wouldn’t.
GLT: Both you and Bruce Daniels briefly mentioned your new movie,
Bam Bam and Celeste. Can you elaborate on that a little?
MC: It’s really a very wild and fun fairy tale. It’s a coming-of-age
story about people coming of age a little later than they should have.
It’s hard to make a comedy that isn’t mainstream, isn’t
something that the studios have seen before. If people are fans of my
work, then I think they’ll definitely get into it. It’s
a great project and I’m really proud of it and I’m so glad
that we’re done.
GLT: Are there plans for you to film the “Assassin”
tour as you did with previous shows?
MC: Yeah. I’m not sure exactly when that will be, but there are
plans in the works.