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Cho: Reality strikes
by Emma Kat Richardson
August 18, 2008
Margaret Cho is, quite simply,
a living icon of the stand-up comedy world. More than a comedian and entertainer,
the San Francisco native is a strong-voiced activist for womens’
rights and the rights of gays and lesbians. And now the power she wields
will only grow as her new VH1 reality show, The Cho Show premieres
this week.
It’s difficult to tap into something unknown about a comedian
that even your mother has heard of, but someone like Margaret Cho is
nothing, if not an endless well of interest and creativity. Beginning
in 1995, with the debut of her ill-fated star-vehicle sitcom All
American Girl, Cho burst onto the scene as a fiery force of unforgettable,
wholly enduring comedic appeal.
Sold-out concert tours and feature films soon followed; the first of
which, I’m the One That I Want, famously documented Cho’s
account of her sitcom’s implosion and subsequent alcoholism –
painfully hilarious routines that pushed the seasoned stand-up veteran
from household name to bona fide superstar.
As a celebrity, Cho, 39, is best known among her devoted legion of
followers as a versatile Jill-of-all-trades, having spent her career
wearing the hats of comedian, actress, political activist, feminist,
and even burlesque dancer. Over the phone, she’s at once friendly
and affable, treating the occasion more as a conversation than an interview.
And with a brand new tour (aptly titled Beautiful) and an upcoming reality
show The Cho Show premiering on VH1 on Aug.
21 , Cho is the miraculous breath of fresh air that the
oversaturated Heidi Montag and Dina Lohan-market has been waiting for.
You’ve been a stand-up comedian, a writer, a political activist,
a burlesque entertainer, and now a reality TV star. What job would you
absolutely not be able to do?
Um… surgeon? [Laughs]. Although, I could assist, because
I was in nursing school; I went to nursing school for quite a while,
when I was very young, so I could probably assist in a surgery, but
I could not perform a surgery. I mean, I could probably pull it off,
but I don’t think anybody would want me to do that.
So you could hand the scalpel, but…
Yeah, I could hand-off shit.
What drew you to the world of reality TV?
Well, I just wanted to do the show and I really love VH1, and I’ve
worked with the executive producer for my show, Rico Martinez –
we’ve been writing partners on some other stuff – and we
just thought this would be the right thing to do. It’s just the
right time, and so we made it happen.
How did you get your parents to go along with it?
Well, I said, ‘It’s either this, or assisted living. You
decide, or I’ll choose for you. Think fast.’ And that’s
how it happened.
Really? Verbatim?
Yeah. [Laughs].
In the first episode of The Cho Show, we get to see some of
the tension between you and the audience when you’re talking about
the Virginia Tech shootings. When you decide to put potentially taboo
subjects into your comedy act, how do you decide what’s going
to work and what could possibly backfire?
Oh, you never know. You never know: it could totally backfire, at all
times, and it’s sorta like you just gotta wing it. Everybody,
all comics just have to wing it, and you have to figure out what you
can do, and it just has to be like a leap of faith, you know? Sometimes
you fall right on your fat face, and it really sucks.
What sets apart the Beautiful tour from the previous tours
you’ve done?
It’s all new material. And it’s good because I took kind
of a long break from doing a lot of stand-up shows; I was doing burlesque
last year with Sensuous Woman [Cho’s 2007 tour, a hybrid
of stand-up and burlesque dancing], and I was doing the True Colors
tour. I was still doing stand-up in those shows, but I wasn’t
focusing on my own show, so this is my own sho – my first one-woman
show for many years.
Is the show themed completely around the idea of beauty?
No, but that’s part of it.
Has the media perception of
Asian-American entertainers changed any since you first started performing?
I don’t know. I think there are a few more of them – not that
much more – but… I don’t know. I mean, I guess now there’s
more performers, but I think there’s a consciousness around race
or a consciousness around talking about race. So yeah, things have changed
– not significantly – but they have changed.
When you say a consciousness, do you mean more of a tip-toeing around
the subject, trying not to offend people?
Yeah, there’s kind of a sensitivity around it, like around race,
and a kind of awareness that this is a relatively new phenomenon, that
we’re seeing more Asian-American faces out there than before.
There’s a need to discuss it and frame it, to make conversation
about race, so I think it’s positive.
How do you reconcile your having dabbled in burlesque performance with
being an outspoken feminist?
Well, I think burlesque and the modern world of burlesque – the
kind of dance that I do and the dancers that I know – are all
incredibly feminist. It’s about women celebrating their bodies,
and for my burlesque experience, the audiences tend to be almost entirely
female. The shows and the content of the shows, the dancers are dancing
for women. It’s a phenomenon that exists for women, by women;
it’s a feminist experience.
I think that burlesque in the old days, in the 30s and 40s, was not
a feminist experience – that was something that was for men, and
those were the strip-clubs of the day. But now, modern burlesque, neo-burlesque
it’s called, the way that women are drawn to it and the shows
that are put on, it’s really a very feminist experience.
What would you say is the main difference between the way the shows
are performed now, so that it caters to women, as opposed to the shows
from the 30s and 40s?
Well, the audience is women, and the performers are hired by women.
The way that the world is and the way that the beauty system works,
you know, the way that beauty is sort of judged and calculated or how
much beauty someone has, the show’s standards of beauty are very
feminist. So, you know, amongst burlesque performers, you have a variety
of body shapes and sizes, it’s very racially diverse, it’s
diverse in terms of sexuality, so it’s pretty queer.
So I guess you’d say it’s more of a shift in the industry,
the fact that it’s now staffed by women?
Yeah, and the industry, it’s reborn into itself, so the industry
is now totally like feminist and driven by the desire to feel okay with
your body and enjoy your body more.
You’ve said that you always wanted to get a tattoo, but were
worried you’d grow to regret it. What made you change your mind?
Well, I realized that I was getting older and didn’t have that
much longer to live. I didn’t have to live with it as long as
I thought I was going to have to. I think when you hit a certain age
you go, ‘Oh, wow, I don’t have that much time left.’
I was at thirty-five and I was like, ‘Well, I probably have thirty-five
more years, so, you know, might as well do it now.’ And that realization
that life is finite and it’s running out really makes you go,
‘Okay, I better get one!’
How did your parents react when you first showed them?
Oh, they hate it. They’re mad, because I just got another huge
one on my chest, which is a very, very weird place to have a tattoo
because it’s so visible; you can never hide it, it’s just
kinda there. It makes you a very touchy person, in a way, because people
always talk to you, and you kinda have to deal with that.
It’s kind of a conversation piece.
Yeah, which I didn’t need it to be, that’s not why I wanted
to get a tattoo. I don’t want to talk to nobody. I didn’t
need an icebreaker, I never do.
What is it a tattoo of?
The newest one is my peony flower, because my Korean name means peony.
So it’s my name and it’s on my chest, and now I have three
huge peonies.
What do you think is at stake in the upcoming Presidential election,
in terms of women’s and LGBTQ rights?
Well, I hope to make sure that we hang on to gay marriage in California
and elsewhere. But I think it’s great, and I think Barack Obama
is going to be an awesome President. I was a campaign surrogate for
Barack Obama, so we all helped him secure the nomination and we’re
going to get to the White House, and I’m very, very excited.
You’ve been very open
about your struggle with body image issues and self-esteem. What do you
have to say to all the girls out there who feel as though they might not
be pretty enough or thin enough to be successful?
That they are and that there’s no body size or right size. It’s
about feeling good and feeling beautiful. You can do so much; you can
feel sexy and pretty and it has nothing to do with what you look like;
it’s all about how you feel.
The Cho Show premieres Aug. 21 on VH1. For more info, check out the
show’s site and margaretcho.com.
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